I suggest malaysian driftwood. Get some pieces they can make a 'fort out of and hide under. The 183's really appreciate it. It will lower your PH and soften your water and thats just what they like

here is a pic of my breeding tank thats not your typical blackwater tank. Temp is 78

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That fourth pic from the Original poster is stunning. You can actaully see the eyes of the to be wiggler forming in the egg, looking about ready to come out.

When I got a pair together and they spawned for the first time I got a small batch of 3 to 5 I beleive, but they keep getting bigger as they ...

Any updates? Good to hear about this so close to home. Also which 200 is this? the hemi or the other?

drpleco wrote: A decent, but not perfect, rule is that 260's will have small spots and 411's will not.

I think that is a quick and easy way to make a determination

Based on the pictures here in the catalog I think it is really hard to determine the difference between the two. I personally think the images of the 260 can be very misleading because they look so different when fully mature and there aren't many images

I had a heck of a time convincing myself ...

Hold on here. It sounds like your talking crap about me based on your delusional ideas

First thing

I sent you a total of 5 PMs because I wanted info on the fish I hoped to purchase. Not 6 or 7. Get your facts straight.

The last Pm I sent I checked in to see if you had any available for purchase ...

I was asking about more 411's and jackster asked if i would prepay. I said no and he hasn't responded to PM's since. Good luck

check fantastic fins.

I sure hope they are 260's, as I have some from Trent. I can't be one to say from experience whether they are or not, but they do look very much like 260's.

Awesome..well done

Thanks Matsp

I can examine them and get a good look at the bristles to see if they go up the nose.

woah that was fast..the rest of the pics are coming here.

fish 3 below
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fish 4 below
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I was hoping these images would be clearer! Lets see what we can get. I might have to get some better photos.

To me I can identify at least 2 ...

Good day! I purchased these as l-213 recently and hope to spawn them. i am looking for some help in sexing each fish and any hints or tips in breeding them.

My first time posting pics, i hope they will be ok

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Aweseome! This is exactly what I was looking for. I just purchased a group of these off aquabid that were labeled L213 Ancistrus sp.**Snow Spot**

My summer goal is to breed them.

I asked the seller about these and he told me that they are from Germany, and should be of breeding size. They are WC ...