Is it possible to get L144 from a cross of a red marble and either another red marble, a calico or a gold spot. Not sure who the Mom is, but Dad is a red marble. Some of the fry are looking like common gold spot BN, but what looks like a large portion of a possible second clutch of eggs are yellow ...

:cry: Sorry to hear your female died.

I have had problems getting my albino BN to spawn as well. I've tried all the tricks and all my ohter BN including my long fin albinos have all spawned 3 or 4 times since my standard fin albinos have.

Guess the best thing is to leave them be and let them spawn ...

I use trios of BN as well, but one lucky male has 3 females with him. I have 4 types of bn. My females (in the same tank) often spawn within about 24 hours most of the time. Once they are all done I remove the male and eggs to a 10g tank to hatch out.

The breeders are in my angel, blue ram and ...

There is a size difference with all spawns (likely male/female) but BN will spawn with eggs or fry in the same pot. My 3 brown females lay eggs on the same day, but my albinos looked like they were going to spawn about 10 days apart (till one female died)

I have a spawn of albino BN that look like ...

If you are going for large....go for the expensive ones. Commons are the cheapest pelco around and every store has them.

Check out their habitat and try to set the tank up as close as possible and you just may be the first to breed a specific species in a home tank.


Good luck on getting the ...

Strange, but this is not the first post I've seen on this problem. On some other forums I'm on (for angels etc) they have had the same thing happen....all but 1 of their BN plecos have died off overnight. The remaining one is fine but 2 or 3 died off during the night. Some with signs of fighting ...

Congrats on the spawn! They are so funny when the attack the only thing around that means them no harm....we look forward to the spawns and try to help them.

Of my 3 female (brown) BN breeders they are all different sizes. I'm sure if it is not due to lack of food as there are left overs in the morning. Some just don't eat as much, but the largest female is the dominant one and gets to spawn with the male first :) He lets them all in the cave on the same ...

I have heard of new fathers eating the eggs, but if he has spawned before then I would check to see if something is up with the tank. I have read they will breed for years, but is it possible the male know the eggs are not fertile? If you have another male I would try him with the ladies and see if ...

The pot with a hole in the lip and resting in the saucer is fine. When you do a w/c you can use slightly cooler water so you drop the tmep a degree or so. It will suprise you how much poop even 2 create. In a 10g you will need to do every other day w/c likely.
Don't forget to feed them veggies like ...

Congrats! They are pretty easy to raise...just feed them like you do the parents. They should start eating in 6-7 days

Till more is know about the genetics of BN we won't be sure. With angels it is possible to get "throw backs" from grand parents. This is from breeders who have kept track of the genetics of fish they have bred and kept to use as breeders. There are not very many...ie 1 or 2 in a spawn of say 400 ...

Congrats on the spawn! Sounds like you have a good Dad there to. If they are the only fish in the tank all you will have to worry about is the filter. If you have a hob one you will have to cover the intake as the tiny free swimmers will go in it....not just get sucked in, but try to get in. You ...

Did you have fry die off very young in the other spawns, or maybe the particular female who had the brown fry didn't spawn before.

A friend of mine has an albino pair, but they have 1/2 brown fry. Brown BN fry start out looking like albinos with no colour, then darken by the time the egg sac has ...

One of the parents must not carry 2 albino genes. If they each pass on 2 genes one must be a/b and the other a/a. Your ratio should be more like 1/2 brown. Albino is a recessive gene so unless you get an a/a combo they will be brown.
If you still have the females tht produced all albino fry, put ...

In my BN grow out tank there are some young ones who seem to sit on the food for a very long time, others eat for 5 minutes or less an take off. All seem to grow well and if they have food in the tank for 12 hours or so they will eat if hungry. I do daily w/c, so I don't check nitrates etc so I can ...

bbs will work well, but if you don't want to hatch them could you use decapsulated ones (where you take the outter shell of with bleach)? I have Under 1 " brown BN in with free swimming angel fry and blue ram fry and they love microw worms, bbs or decaps. My BN youngsters were about a month old when ...

:thumbsup: That is fantastic!!!! Glad you saved a few, are there anymore still in with Dad?

You have had zebras spawn before right, it sounds like you were not expecting many to live from the first spawn. They are so good looking it is a shame they are so hard to get to spawn, then even harder to ...

Time will tell. Once he gets his bristles keep and eye out to see if he lets a female in there. If so, then he doesn't come out for a week you will know there are fry under the wood

He may pick a cave once it is breeding time, but if he likes it there he may just stay

Same as the adults. I feed mine cucumber slices that have been frozen....it breaks dow easier, sinking shrimp pellets, algae wafter, peas and lima bean (frozen ones, just thaw and remove shells) The young ones (not newly hatched) that go in with angel of blue ram fry get microworms or BBS and love ...

They do have long poops for sure So long as it is not stringy and white or clean they should be A ok.

I would say it looks like eggs. It will almost look like she is bleeding inside, the eggs are very orange and is shows through the skin. Hope they produce some fry for you soon. She will start to hang around his cave when she is ready to spawn

Welcome to the forum Ps....just explain you are stealing cucumbers for your fish...they will buy that right!

A few days isn't too far off as it only takes about 4 days for the eggs to hatch into what with many other fish are called wigglers. They have the huge egg sac and can't swim very well, but they can use that sucker mouth to stick to the glass or other things.

I get to see mine close up and they can ...

The male may keep them in the cave for 10 or more days :)

Mine doesn't but, I remove Dad and eggs to a 10g to hatch as the angel tank mates would eat the little guys and my "cave" is open on both ends. When they lay eggs I put it upright on the glass bottom so there is only one entrace but as soon ...

They do have a definite hierarchy. My females will swish tails at eachother and chase around, but have never hurt eachother. I have one male with 3 females and they spawn regularly. They all spawn on the same day, but the one thing I've noticed it is in the same order. The largest female is first ...

Congrats on the spawn....hope they do well for you.

It is a mood thing....stress, pre spawning or other moods will change their colouring. My females get the mottled grey when close to spawning, stress induced as the male chases them around????

How big are the fry? If you have a planted tank with plenty of tiny hidding spaces it may be easier to leave them in the main tank. You can TRY to catch them and put them in a 10g but you should have a cycled sponge filter in the tank.
The next time they spawn (in a month or so) try to remove Dad ...

I would go with a common pleco...thye do get huge and can live with oscars. BN do stay too small for large oscars.