Well in the UK I would go Mikes rifts and not trust the so called tank bred petricola in some shops I see. I may be old and jaded but wow are there some folk out there selling stuff as it is not. I guess its what they bought em as but its hardly a good explanation as they often know the truth.
Erm ...

Its a very old thread but the advice here I found as good. Yep I got quite a lot of fry survival. Yep I enjoyed the Synos in the tank. But yep they reduced the breeding compared to my Tropheus only tank/tanks. I never directly saw loss of fry to lucipinis (not petricola as they were sold to me as ...

Are there any photos of young S.petricola I can compare the shop ones to?

Why in the Cat-eLog does it still say
"Breeding Because of the similarity with S. lucipinnis, it is unclear if this species is the one many aquarists have spawned."?

All the best James

Thanks. Kind of convinced by the Oliver Drescher report.
Not at all convinced about the Neil Hardy Aquatics in the UK thing. I have as yet have found no evidence to support they are breeding a petricola not a lucipinnis.
For sure the young stuff they sell via MH aquatics looks like lucipinnis to me ...

Synodontis petricola
Sorry if this has been asked before but are there any confirmed breeding reports on these (other than miss Ided Synodontis lucipinnis)?

All the best James

If you want to buy properly labeled Synos, petricola and lucipinnis and granulosa in the UK I suggest you look here.
http://www.riftvalleycichlids.com/
Humm notice at the moment he has no lucipinnis but usualy has and for sure can get em both TB and WC.
Note the petricola are always WC. Like me, he ...

NHA The guys who say they have bred Synodontis granulosus?
Dunno if they would allow a hobbiest like me to see their stuff.
Dunno but maybe getting hold of genuine petricola is beyond my means.
Sad because I would like to try them.

All the best James

Thanks, sorry for the edit as you answered.
Any photos of juveniles for petricola?
Example I read that these are petricola but for sure I have my doughts.
http://www.tropicalfish.org.uk/baby%20petricolas.jpg

All the best James

If the names in my local Maidenhead or any other LFSs were just 5 years out of date.......... then it would be a major improvement. :ymblushing:
Can I ask a couple of questions?
For the descriptions of lucipinnis and petricola.........where were the fish from?

And is it likely they have been ...

Sorry to butt in but who are NHA and who is breeding petricola?

All the best James

Thank you!

Wow I did not know there were so many from Lake Tang and so few from Malawi.

I now can see what you guys were talking about re dorsal and caudal fin all wrong on my guys for a pure rift Syno

While I have your attention can I have more bites at the cherry/more questions?

Is there a way of calling up photos of just all the Lake Tanganyika Synodontis?

Is there a way of calling up photos of just all the Lake Malawi Synodontis?

Why do breeders make Synodontis hybrids?
I kind of understand ...

Thanks again.

Thanks.
I have been breeding the guy below.
I wondered if you could tell me if it was lucippinis or petricola or a mix.

About 4"

http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/2 ... A60001.flv

I guess I wont bother breeding em then. :oops: :(

Thanks for the replies.

On care (I have em now, so I best give em decent conditions I guess)

Would keeping em in a show tank with Tang featherfins etc be OK at pH about 8.6?

Will they need anything other than a place to hide?
What else would you ...

Thanks in advance sorry for the poor photos.
Any info on sexing em appreciated as well as ID
Sorry only one in photos so far.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/24Tropheus/EACG%20auction%202009/th_STA60143.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/24Tropheus/EACG%20auction%202009/th_STA60144 ...

Thanks for the answers guys.
So far for me, I have lucipinnis in with Troph and gobies.

Most (all but one WC) of my Troph in this tank were bred in a tank with lucipinnis in there by another guy.

Ideal runt removal service?

For serious breeding of the Troph then I guess I would remove them.

I ...

At what size are c-ichlid fry safe from predation by adult Synodontis lucipinnis and eupterus?

Is there another Syno that will eat less c-ichlid mouthbrooder fry or leave the fry alone at a smaller size?

You have intorests in common dont you?
She has intorests that leave you cold I bet?
You have an intorest that leaves her cold.

Blokes NEED hobbies.

Wheres the problem?

Ps I have not given up on the idea of petricola with breeding Tropheus but am letting a friend try it first

Well I have been doing quite a lot of research on this and eventualy come up with some advice on NLS that I think is good. Thanks Pam Chin.

Regarding foods: Their main objective in life, behind breeding, is to eat, they have been recorded scraping the rocks for algae over 1500 times per hour. The ...

This is the only type of fish that has never died on me. Even survived tank disasters and being left in the care of others for over a year. Oldest I have seen personaly 23 years.

I am now convinced that I do not have the knowledge or experience to avoid a hybrid by looking at young fish. All I can aford. Are there any deelers/hobbiests that I can try who can do this for me?

Watch out if you want to be sure of avoiding hybids though. Check out the rest of the site Petricola links. Good advice there also I think.

Kept single ones (many Aulonocara ok as single fish)in tanks of that size with other fish, as long as there are no other simalar fish or these are small rock dwelling types and got lots of cover it seems ok. Aulonocara can be bullied by mbuna but labs usualy ok. Electric blue agree tank prob too ...

Wow took me 20 years of trying to figure that lot out for myself and all I needed was a computer,
(Only got one last couple of months)
and to figure out where to ask (Tried many cichlid sites)

What do you recon on the claims from promoters of NLS that it is a completly proven food for Tropheus ...

I am deeply deeply out of my depth. Thanks all.
Think I am sutably chastised learnt a lot. Thanks Guys. Tropheus my game (ish). No expert but I realy love this site. Try petricola if I can get what I would most like in a different tank perhaps try and breed pure bloods (God I sound awful). (dream on ...

Oh thanks for that, I have a lot to learn. Anything more on petricola alone. Seen some confusing oldish articles. (dwarf (what I think I may want) vs first identified/discribed petricola. now hybrids as well?
May be I am being too snobish they are all great but would like wild type of my chouce if ...

Thanks guys mixxed messages before and in articles still but I think I know who to trust everyones experiences opinions more than wellcome of course. Maybe try them in a Malawi set up where no fry are urgent or can strip?

Outragiuos snob that I am.

Thanks.