Synodontis multipunctata frenzy spawn??

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Synodontis multipunctata frenzy spawn??

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I picked up 4 syno multis Saturday. They are about 3.5"-4" in length. Tonight I gave them a few shrimp pellets for an evening snack. I noticed when the fish came out in a mild feeding frenzy(the clown loaches were the ones more frenzied), it looked like the syno multi female dropped some eggs and a white cloud appeared right next to her. :shock: (male was at her side) Could the small excitement of feeding like this cause them to do a small spwan? They were swimming right next to some clown loaches and a few syno lucipinnis. It looked like about 8-12 golden eggs. I couldn't believe my eyes. In a flash, the syno lucipinnis cleanned up the eggs. Has anyone seen this before? I thought they might need to be 5+" before they spawn. If this was an early attempt to a spawn, I think I'll start prepping conditions with some O lithobate z-rocks.

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I doubt the food triggered the spawn, more likely something in the water - ie better, more favourable conditions than previous.

It is recorded that there doesn't have to be a "cuckoo" host (mouthbrooding cichlid) present as multis will scatter but this is much less often seen.

Your fish may be a little on the small side but they may well be mature enough in terms of age.
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I'm thinking it might have had to do with the clown loaches. The way they dig in the rocks for food. They sort of shimmy to dig thru the rocks. Almost like Africans do when spawning. It took me by suprise. If I would have fed and walked away like normal, I never would have caught it.
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walleye1 wrote:I'm thinking it might have had to do with the clown loaches. The way they dig in the rocks for food. They sort of shimmy to dig thru the rocks. Almost like Africans do when spawning. It took me by suprise. If I would have fed and walked away like normal, I never would have caught it.

I don't think a visual stimuli is it. Perhaps hormones/pheremones in the water released by any of the fish. Generally fish are triggered to spawn by a seasonal change - like the rainy season etc ie cold partial-water change or a female indication she is 'ready' via hormonal excretion.
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I was thinking the water change might have also done something. After spending a day in a bag then being put in a tank at 78 deg. On another board, another guy bought some wild syno multis and they spawned after 2 days of getting them home. I'm rearranging a couple tanks in about a month or two(when weather warms up.) My cats and loaches will be moved to a 58 gal tank with some haps. I'll make sure the haps are ready to spawn before I make the move. I'm hoping the move, timing, cool down-warm up, and change of water will trigger spawnning. I'll be ready and paying attention to conditions. Right before a spring storm might even make it better. It seams to help get my Africans in the mood. I'm just going to try to get all the odds in my favor when I move them. :D I've learned alot going thru this websight. :wink:

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I've been trying to get my syno multies to spawn. They have been chasing my o. lithobates around a lot. I came up with an egg trap. It's similar to what people use for syno petros. Instead of a flower pot, I have a spawning rock on top. The idea is to catch the eggs that get scattered. I've been able to get eggs 3 times in the trap. The first 2, I wasn't able to get them in time. The last time, I did get eggs. I was only able to get one to survive. Fungus took its toll on them. I do have 1 little wiggler in my tumbler now. I plan on stripping the host fish today or tomorrow to see what she’s holding. Either way, her eggs are going into the tumbler with the syno multi wiggler.

I'm glad I found this sight. By researching all over this sight, it gave me plenty of info to get me started. I'll get back later with the status of my cats.

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Nice one Steve :thumbsup: Glad you have had some success & things should get steadier now with greater success rates.

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I'm amazed at how fast this syno multi grows. I only have the one multicat fry. This picture is at 12 days. I can see whole fry is his stomach. I think I'll leave him in the tumbler until all fry are gone.
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wow - amazing picture and good thread read :)
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At day 16, the little cat is almost 1" long. He has eaten around 25-30 eggs/fry. I had to move him to a fry basket. The fry in the basket are about 3-4 weeks older than the multi cat.

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wow, he is growing very fast!
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andywoolloo wrote:wow, he is growing very fast!
On a diet of cichlid eggs/fry - the growth rate will be at a premium - a brilliant survival strategy (get big quick)
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He has slowed down in his growing. He's being fed fish food now. Belly isn't as swollen and full as it has been.

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looks like the cichlid fry are growing too & now a little more elusive
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