Male and Male? or Male & Female?

[Neo]

What do you reckon???

sorry for the bad pics, iphone is all I have for now to take any with

Fish one? male or female?


Fish two is a male im sure


Fish one again, male or female?


A couple of pics of them both

[ITR371]

Hi there.

I am pretty sure that it's a female

[Neo]

I hope so but not 100% convinced yet :/ anyone else think its a female? if you click my blog you can open a large pic of the two that might help

[MatsP]

If you compare the head-shape, I'd say it's likely a female. But I wouldn't put my next pay-check on it... ;)

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Mats

[Neo]

Cheers MatsP hope to get a few views on it and I will sex it based on the majority lol

[Acanthicus]

Got a pair there I guess.

[LARA]

whats the price on them now?

[Andypex]

Hey

I'd say Fish 1 is a female and was almost certain......however, on the 3rd picture down Fish 1 appears to have cheek odontode growth that is growing over/past the first pectoral ray (ie over the white 1st ray and into the black one)...... can you confirm or get a closer picture of this??

Its head and body shape says female but i have never seen a female with cheek odontodes that long and usually use that as a way of sexing mature fish..... basically if odontode growth is over/past the first pectoral ray = male

Andy

[Neo]

Andy yeah it has one hair or so either side that seems fairly long but the rest are short, not sure it goes over the fin that much, will check if I ever take it out the tank again but then I think my other female may have this too, this is my other pair and i am 100% its a male and female, do you agree?? pretty sure the female is gravid with eggs