blue eyed brown bristlenose

davidkozak · Post by **davidkozak** » 03 Aug 2004, 23:46

has anyone ever come across something like this??
david
P.s. and yes, it's definitely some type of ancistrus...

Caol_ila · Post by **Caol_ila** » 04 Aug 2004, 09:26

Hi!

Yes ive heard of it a couple of times. Seems to be a regular fish in some parts of germany. Never seen one though. It seems to be related to the blue eyed L144 type.

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 04 Aug 2004, 11:27

Hi!

It pretty must be the normal population color of L144,
L144 (the Xanto blue eye) aquarium population was fix with just 1 specimen importated and colored that way.... so it is pretty likely if you find a brown yellow eyes Ancistrus that it is a Ancistrus L144 with its normal coloration...

Cheers
Yann

davidkozak · Post by **davidkozak** » 04 Aug 2004, 13:01

thanks for the replies...I'll try and get some clear pictures of it today...
david

davidkozak · Post by **davidkozak** » 04 Aug 2004, 22:08

the pics...these pics are straight from my camera and the only thing that's been adjusted is the "sharpness".....don't hold back, if you think I'm just seeing things david

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/d ... eeyes2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/d ... eeyes1.jpg

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 05 Aug 2004, 07:02

Hi!

Very nice!
Obviously a female!!!
Can we use it for the cat-elog, just mail them to Jools at [email protected]

Just to be curious, under what name did you buy them.
Cheers
Yann

davidkozak · Post by **davidkozak** » 05 Aug 2004, 07:09

yannfulliquet wrote:Hi!

Very nice!
Obviously a female!!!
Can we use it for the cat-elog, just mail them to Jools at [email protected]

Just to be curious, under what name did you buy them.
Cheers
Yann

Yann: I don't actually own this fish,(though I own several like it without the "blue eyes") a friend of mine has it cleaning one of his discus tanks...It was bought as a "wild bristlenose"...

Everyone I''ve spoken with since posting the pictures seems to think that the eyes are "cloudy" and it's sick or old...that being said, would you really want to post a picture of a sick fish in the "cat-elog"?? or do you think otherwise as far as it being sick??
david

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 05 Aug 2004, 07:24

Hi!

Don't know if she sick, the flash could have cause that look.

A profile picture would be better...without flash if possible

Cheers
Yann

davidkozak · Post by **davidkozak** » 05 Aug 2004, 08:17

Yann,
The way the eyes look in the present pictures is pretty representative of what they look like...That being said, I appreciate the reply, and i'll try to get some more pictures(profile with no flash)
david

Caol_ila · Post by **Caol_ila** » 05 Aug 2004, 09:48

Hi!

Since this fish has appeared in a couple of countries i dont think that its sick...or its a widespread eye desease that makes people believe they are blue...but i trust your judgement that this was ruled out.

davidkozak · Post by **davidkozak** » 05 Aug 2004, 18:42

Caol_ila wrote:Hi!

Since this fish has appeared in a couple of countries i dont think that its sick...or its a widespread eye desease that makes people believe they are blue...but i trust your judgement that this was ruled out.

well, unfortunately I'm the only one that seems to believe that the eyes are blue...other than possibly Yann

I'll take some more pictures today when I'm over taking care of my buddy's tanks...I don't trust my judgement as far as discerning btwn the eyes being blue vs. the eyes being cloudy-I figured that cloudy eyes would be white-cloudy, not blue-cloudy...thanks for the response, david

Caol_ila · Post by **Caol_ila** » 05 Aug 2004, 18:46

if the iris lobe isnt gray/blue id say its not a disease...but a bette rpic would help

davidkozak · Post by **davidkozak** » 05 Aug 2004, 20:38

I just took these pictures...I took a bunch without flash, most of which turned out horribly even when I bumped up the brightness....david
without flash:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/d ... tflash.jpg
another with flash...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/d ... hflash.jpg

klaus · Post by **klaus** » 08 Aug 2004, 13:32

Pardon me if this post goes wrong as it is my first one....

I bought an adult bristlenose pair at a LFS in Manila - and at least the female seems to have blue eyes (see pic). I'll check the male once he comes out of the breeding cave.

http://img20.exs.cx/img20/3097/bristle_1.jpg

Post by **Shane** » 12 Aug 2004, 16:45

David (and others),
This is a common condition that occurs when exporters over medicate. I have seen it several times in several spp. I am not sure what the exact medication is (not sure the exporters know either), but I can try to find out. It is some "general tonic" medication used in Colombia. If loricariids are given too high of a dose, their eyes are "bleached" blue. I believe it produces some type of cataract when the eye, after having been burned by the medication, heals. My guess is that the fish is not blind, but has reduced vision. On the positive side, survivors do just as well as any other fish as catfishes have such keen other senses to get them around. This why several people have seen the same condition in different individuals of the same sp.
-Shane

Caol_ila · Post by **Caol_ila** » 12 Aug 2004, 17:26

Hi!

I still find it weird that i only have heard this from Ancistrus ssp....a fish youd think isnt imported very often these days.

Jorge · Post by **Jorge** » 29 Dec 2005, 10:16

and what do you think about this male Ancistrus with blue ring in his eye? is a brown L144? an hybrid with L144 involved?

according to the owner of the fish it produces amelanistic fry:

LitosCBR · Post by **LitosCBR** » 17 Sep 2008, 09:02

It seems that this has been forgotten for 3 years, but here another individual with a similar blue ring found in a LFS in A Coruña (Spain):

(the photograph is from a Spanish forum colleague)

Is it a damaged eye? is fixed the origin of this blue eye strain?

Regards,

Carlos

Chrysichthys · Post by **Chrysichthys** » 17 Sep 2008, 14:32

Shane wrote:David (and others),
I am not sure what the exact medication is (not sure the exporters know either), but I can try to find out.

I think it might be methylene blue.

blue eyed brown bristlenose

blue eyed brown bristlenose

Re: blue eyed brown bristlenose

Re: